The 480 Achilles ... again ...

Jim Taylor
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Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:23 (1817 days ago)

Spent some time on the range this morning. Shot the 480 Achilles for the first time in 10 years! It works just fine. Me ... not so well. The sights seem to have grown fuzz or somehow they got dimmer! But I had a good time. Here's a couple targets.

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For a heeled type centerfire that is fantastic!

WB
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Friday, May 17, 2019, 11:51 (1817 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

I know a .22 RF is heeled but the bullet alloy is so soft it bumps up easily and it's hard to get it wrong. The .480 Achilles you have there is likely one of the most accurate CF Heeled bullet shooting guns there are.

I remember working with the .41 Long Colt (and yes, there was a .41 Short Colt, besides the .41 RF), the bullet (heeled) was 0.401" and the bore 0.403". Less than optimal but much better than post WWI ammo that had a hollow base 0.386" inside lubed slug. With either one best I could manage was 4-6" and Harry O said that was real good! He should know.

As I mentioned I could easily be bent to have a belly gun in .480 done up on a modern Italian chassis. They are generally less than $300-400. The accuracy is evidence that your rig was put together right.

If the alloy is soft it does best ..

Jim Taylor
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Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:03 (1817 days ago) @ WB

The hollow base bullet works really well with black powder. It expands the base completely.

A very dirty thought...

WB
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Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:16 (1817 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

I bet the .45 Colt 255 hollow base and BP just might fill enough to do pretty well too?

I've shot some Pyrodex and 777 in ctg. guns for a goof, does it mimic BP fairly well in accuracy?

Hmm... now why would anyone try that?

Jim Taylor
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Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:40 (1817 days ago) @ WB

hahahahahaha

LOL

Sid R
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Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:56 (1817 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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Now if you had a micro grooved

Sid R
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Friday, May 17, 2019, 12:58 (1817 days ago) @ WB

barrel a hollow base that was cast a smidge harder might do well or a turned jacketed bullet.

target

Martin Riggs
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Friday, May 17, 2019, 13:27 (1817 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

Noce Jim, easn't thete some sort of

Grover Sr
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Friday, May 17, 2019, 19:38 (1817 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

32 cal heeled rifle bullet many years ago? Seems like I recall seeing one an old fella showef me how to reload many years ago. He was a hermit living in the Big Thicket in East Texas. Actually living off the land. He had an old rolling block rifle and used black powder with a center fire cartridge. Until you btought up the Achilles I had forgotten about heeled bulkets.

Crap, excuse the misspelled words. Fat fingers, Small phone

Grover Sr
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Friday, May 17, 2019, 19:40 (1817 days ago) @ Grover Sr

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There were lots of heeled bullets in the early days

Jim Taylor
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Saturday, May 18, 2019, 05:47 (1816 days ago) @ Grover Sr

A lot of the Colt cartridges were heeled bullets .. the early .44's ... the .41's ... .38's ...

they were made in practically every caliber. The .22 rimfire is the most successful one of them all.

They were all heeled

AlanT
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Sunday, May 19, 2019, 09:56 (1815 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

Until the advent of the .44 Russian in 1870

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