New Vaqueros are in 44 magnum too?

steve todd
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Tuesday, September 11, 2018, 19:10 (8 days ago)

I must be remembering wrong about not shooting +p ammo in the 45LC?
Also, does this mean that the 357 Vaqueeros can be re-chambered to 356GNR?

I wouldn't recommend shooting any hot rounds or +P

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, September 11, 2018, 19:17 (8 days ago) @ steve todd

rounds in the New Vaquero. We can do the 356 GNR but as it is a fairly high pressure round I would suggest a 5 shot cylinder.

Many have rechambered the 44 Specials since Day 1...

Huey
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 07:06 (8 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

But, Im in agreement with Gary. If I wanted 44 Magnum or 45 Colt 30,000 psi, Id send it in for a five shot conversion.

I've never heard of a failure though. Sure Ruger wouldn't put an unsafe gun out there. But, like rechambering the Redhawk 45 Colts to 454 Casull, it's just not on my agenda.

I've heard of recylindering the 45 Colt Redhawk

AkRay
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 10:26 (7 days ago) @ Huey

Some take the 454 Casull cylinder from a Super Redhawk and put it into a standard Redhawk to get big power in a smaller package.

the Redhawk and Super Redhawk cylinders are the same size

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 11:26 (7 days ago) @ AkRay

both are 1.790 and even though the SRH cylinder is unfluted it is no stronger than the Redhawk.

I am sitting here with two Ruger Vaqueros.

Larry Fry
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 17:14 (7 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

They are .44 Magnum and were described as New Model Vaqueros. This was to distinguish them from the old 3 screw Vaqueros I would assume. They are on the bigger Vaquero frame that the ones I see in the local gunshops. Both have 2 digit prefixes on their serial number. The frames are case hardened and I love to shoot them in .44 special. 180 grain FTX will really do a number on a ballistic get dummy, in fact, it is hard to tell the difference between the 180 grain special FTX, 165 grain special FTX and a 240 grain magnum. All three make big holes! I like the older Vaqueros better than the new ones as they are heavier and help with recoil. (Just my opinion on that).

Larry, no such thing as 3 screw Vaqueros.

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 18:01 (7 days ago) @ Larry Fry

All vaqueros have the 2 pins. The older Vaquero which is the larger one, has a 2 number prefix, from 55 to 58. The new ones are shown on the side of the action as a NEW VAQUERO. These are ones that are about the same size as the old first gen Colt SAA and are not as strong as the older beefier Vaqueros.

Ok, both of mine start with a 58-##'s

Larry Fry
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 21:13 (7 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I did not know that there were no 3 screw vaqueros. False assumption on my part that just because there were 3 screw Blackhawks that all the other single action frames were the same..... Learn something everyday!

I may be wrong but I think the new TALO 44 mag

Amede
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 07:31 (8 days ago) @ steve todd

Vaqueros are built on the old frame. A couple I have seen have the 2 digit prefix serial number. I don't own one or have one in my hand to confirm, maybe someone else does.

I tried to figure that out too. The New 44 Magnum...

Huey
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 07:59 (8 days ago) @ Amede

Is listed as 39 oz on the Ruger site. The same gun in 45 Caliber is 37 oz. About the difference you'd expect.

Guess we will figure out in time. Maybe JT will weigh in...

I looked at a couple that were for sale

Amede
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 08:01 (8 days ago) @ Huey

online that had actual pictures and they showed 2 digit prefixes.

So,,, most likely the 44 magnum version

steve todd
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 11:03 (7 days ago) @ Huey

Of the “New Vaquero” is on a slightly bigger frame? 2 oz might not be enough weight difference considering the bigger holes in the cylinder and barrel. But it might be.
The bottom line is, nope, shouldnt get a 357 version and have it changed to 356GNR,,, unless you want a 5 shot version.

the New Vaquero is on the small frame. The cowboy shooters

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 11:20 (7 days ago) @ steve todd

wanted a gun the same size and weight as the 1st Gen Colt SAA.

Ya, that’s why i cant wrap my head around 44mag pressure.

steve todd
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 11:31 (7 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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Here is an AR article on it. Its using the older frame.

Amede
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 11:33 (7 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Thanks, that explains it.

steve todd
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 11:45 (7 days ago) @ Amede

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that article is 2 years old and was a very limited edition

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 12:15 (7 days ago) @ Amede

Vaquero built on some of the older Vaquero frames.

Agreed, but they still show them on the Ruger website

Amede
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 12:45 (7 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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Gary, What about 41 mag in those new frames?

Amede
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 13:23 (7 days ago) @ Amede

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the 41 Mag is no problem in the New Vaquero but

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 14:46 (7 days ago) @ Amede

you are limited to the lightweight bullets with a short nose, due to the shorter cylinder. Even with a new cylinder the cylinder window is too short for the longer heavier bullets.

that is a limited issue gun for Talo, built from existing

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 14:39 (7 days ago) @ Amede

parts. Product number 10596 and 10598, the standard gripframe and the birdshead. But they are not in Ruger's standard product listing, only in the limited issue distributor only listing. The New Vaquero is the small frame and is not made in 44 mag.

.44 mag Vaquero

David R
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Wednesday, September 12, 2018, 10:36 (7 days ago) @ steve todd

I have one in stainless, .44 mag, 5 1/2 inch bbl. Clearly a original model Vaquero and not a new model. Great woods gun!

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