with you guys striking out horribly I thought I

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 10:54 (8 days ago)

should go ahead and post pics of the 3 cartridges we have been talking about.
left to right..257 Firecat, 500 S&W, and 366 Firecat.
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The 257 Firecat is the new cartridge for the new AR-10 rifle and will also be available in the Encore. A 243 case necked up to .257.

The 500 S&W is the cartridge in the new Marlin lever action. I think Huey was the first to guess this one right but a couple of you were close behind.

The new 366 Firecat is the projected new cartridge also for the AR-10. A 308 Improved necked up to .366.

When should I box up my Marlin 1895?

Darryl T.
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 11:04 (8 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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the sooner you get it in the sooner you get it back

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 11:19 (8 days ago) @ Darryl T.

so whenever you like.

That Marlin 500 S&W is long overdue...

Huey
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 12:56 (8 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

When that cartridge was introduced, I thatcalled Gary for an Encore Rifle Barrel. I had to wait on his reamer to arrive.

Its still high on my list of nice guns. Ill definitely add a Marlin in the future.

As I recall Gary built the first 2 barrels

Darryl T.
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 13:07 (8 days ago) @ Huey

in 500 S&W for a magazine article, 1 blue and 1 stainless. I have the stainless one. Good shooter, felt right at home breaking it in on deer and took it to Maine on a moose hunt.

if memory serves me, the magazine wanted to do an article on

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 13:10 (8 days ago) @ Darryl T.

the new 500. The guy at the magazine called Kelly Brost of Cast Performance Bullets to get my phone number. Kelly gave it to him and they asked for the barrels for the article. And the article was done.

366 Firecat

Alcorn
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 15:09 (7 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Can the 366 Firecat be done in an Encore pistol?

yes, but remember we don't have any dies yet. When

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 15:16 (7 days ago) @ Alcorn

I loaded the ammo for the test firing I took new 308 brass,lubed the inside neck good, necked it up to 338, then 358, then 366 to get the brass but it worked fine. Still working on the correct load for an AR.

I want a 366 Firecat pistol too

steve todd
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 19:08 (7 days ago) @ Alcorn

How soon will you be making barrels for an Encore?

couple of weeks. I want to run a test barrel

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 19:32 (7 days ago) @ steve todd

with proof loads first to make sure it is what I expect.

Damnit!! I just sold my 1895 a year ago.

Kevin E
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 13:46 (8 days ago) @ Darryl T.

Guess Ill be looking for the next one....

257 Firecat

Tom P
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 11:56 (8 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

Looks like I'll be ordering another Encore barrel.

if all goes well, I hope to have all 3 guns at the HHC

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 12:50 (8 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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the first one is the old 25SOUPER cartridge, Gary.

WES DAKOTA
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 13:03 (8 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

And so it goes...

I agree

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 13:04 (8 days ago) @ WES DAKOTA

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always some dummy wanting to rain on your parade Gary

Jericho
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 13:11 (8 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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Yep. Dave and I have worked together for almost 30 years

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 13:39 (8 days ago) @ Jericho

Dave, to me, is like John Taffin. When either one tells me something, I believe it. I don't need a wannabe "expert" disputing what Dave tells me.

looking forward to it

James Pedigo
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 13:45 (8 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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I remember something of that but it was sort of pointless

WB
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 14:03 (8 days ago) @ WES DAKOTA

back then in bolt guns with the .257 Roberts likely being superior on the 7X57 case. Ditto the old argument .243 vs 6mm Rem. I like Gary's approach on the .257 AR10, as the .257 Roberts won't fit as well. The day after the .221 Fireball came out it was immediately necked to everything from .14 to .375. JD was innovative in adapting it to the AR platform and subsonic bolt gun applications. He did get screwed on not spending the bucks to get it SAAMI standardized and let those other boys beat him in reworking it into the .300 AAC.

If you want a light recoiling, long range, AR10 that .25 cal. is interesting. I've not seen anyone adapt the case and caliber to a semi-auto platform like this. The 9.3mm version is very cool for a thumper, it will prove very interesting.

A man would be sorely pressed to come up with something that was not close to something done in years past. But not this specific adaptation. Sometimes we old dudes know too much when it don't count.

Dave Manson says you are wrong. And I agree.

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 15:12 (7 days ago) @ WES DAKOTA

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500s&w Marlin

Charles
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 14:09 (8 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I do hope you have good sights on it. What ammo was tests made Gary? And how far? I had, a Big Horn carbine for awhile and was not happy with the plastic rear sight. Some XS sights should work good. I used hand loads and Double Tap ammo.

right now we are working with the XS rear and a low mount

Gary Reeder
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Thursday, August 09, 2018, 14:32 (8 days ago) @ Charles

fiber optic front. No plastics. The gun worked perfect with Federal ammo using the Barnes bullet and the Cor Bon ammo.

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