Besides a Glock, have you ever had a gun

WB
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Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 07:15 (71 days ago)

you didn't particularly "like" but it was too useful to get rid of? My little 10 oz. Kahr .380 is mine. I wanted super small, light, but needed "sights I could see", in a minimal .380 package. I also needed DA, so I didn't need to cock a hammer. I love some of the small 9's but not if I have to cock a hammer, and they are all much bigger, a different class.

My delightful 12 oz. .38 S&W M360 fills that bill nicely and I much prefer it. It's a keeper, however unpleasant to actually fire. But that teeny .380 is so flat and handy to slide in a pocket I just can't seem to dump it. Plus I can't really come out positive on the cash. I think I paid like $400 for it and it had a laser with it, which I sold for about $100. So I have $300 in it and that's about all it would bring. Not bad but not motivating either.

So I'll probably just keep it around. It's very bland too. If GNR is game I might entertain having the sides of the slide polished and maybe some engraving, just to personalize it. THAT might spruce up my interest, a lady with an Iguana...

Nope

Jim Taylor
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Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 07:25 (71 days ago) @ WB

Life is too short to mess with ugly guns and guns I don't like.

Had a few I wish I had never sold.

SPB
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Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:09 (71 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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Maybe it's an age thing, I expect too much.

WB
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Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:21 (71 days ago) @ SPB

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the main thing is carry what you are comfortable with and

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 17:42 (71 days ago) @ WB

what you are confident with. As I get older I think more and more that the caliber really doesn't matter. And precise bullet placement isn't as necessary on 2 legged varmints as it is on 4 legged ones. A friend who was a cop in Florida told me once that it is not the bullet that kills, it is the mind. A bad guy accosts you with a gun and you shoot him in the chest, even with a piss ant caliber. He looks down, sees the blood and thinks "Oh God, I have been shot, I'm gonna die". And he goes into shock,and dies from a non lethal wound.

At first I thought my friend was loony but more and more as I learn more about shootings, I begin to believe him. So I always carry what is comfortable to carry and in places where I am not supposed to carry a gun, I leave the 45 in the truck and carry that little Budischowsky in 25 ACP. It is small, flat and double action and works every time and it drops right in my pocket. And yes it is a small piss ant cartridge but a shot in the upper chest or in the face will change the mind of most bad guys real quick. It also helps to know that Colleen has at least 2 guns in her big duffle bag size purse, just in case.

I also don't believe much in jacketed hollow points. I know that sounds sacrilegious but contrary to what some gun writers write that the various hollow points do great damage to the bad guy, my tests proved otherwise. Plus Lee Jurras told me years ago that if the round was under 1100 fps it probably wouldn't open up at all. If that hollow point is wide it picks up bits of clothing and fat as it enters the body. That slows it down or in some cases, stops it. So unless you are accosted by a skinny naked guy, forget the "flying ash cans" or "flying ash trays" as some folks used to call them.

The other JHPs tend to collapse on themselves and turn into a FMJ type bullet. This tends to go deeper into that naked skinny guy but if it is going to do that, why not just carry a FMJ round in the first place. It feeds much better and does at least as much damage.

If you feel better running JHPs in your carry gun, alternate a JHP then a FMJ, then a JHP and so on. I feel better doing that and have forever. Somebody I trust told me to do it that way long ago and I remember his advice more than I remember who gave me that advice. Probably Lee Jurras. A lot of my gun knowledge in my much younger years came from Lee and my almost nightly probably annoying as hell phone calls. But Lee was the gentleman he was til the end and never told me to take a hike. If I had been smart I would have written them down so I would remember them better.

What this rambling gets to eventually is carry what you feel good about carrying and pay no attention to what the "experts" on the internet tell you to do. And forget the new whoop de do cartridges that are being released almost weekly that are guaranteed to put that charging rhino on his nose. Go with what you trust and what cartridge feeds perfectly thru your carry gun.

I carry hardball in the 45 ACP

Jim Taylor
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Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 18:15 (71 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I want the gun to feed consistantly and I want to punch a hole all the through.

yup, works every time

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 19:09 (71 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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Here's one I was testing years ago...

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 06:29 (70 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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Fired through 1/2" pine boards ... it just plugged up .. and it was a +P load.

HP’s

OGS
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Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 19:25 (71 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

The pharmacist who works for me had 45acp hp’s during the attempted robbery of my store. Point blank and the first shot was a complete pass through in the upper chest and with the exception of rifling, it looked like I could have reloaded it. The second shot hit his gun and blew up, the third went through the abdomen and was stopped by his coat and lying on the floor. It didn’t expand and the tip was just slightly deformed on one side.

I got him and myself the hornady critical defense and critical duty in all the calibers we carry now. I haven’t heard anything bad about these yet.

Like I mentioned hollow points are not the miracle

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 22:15 (71 days ago) @ OGS

self defense bullets a lot of folks declare them to be. In your case they did exactly what I would have bet on.

AMEN Jim

Gary Reeder
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Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:42 (71 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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Ugly gun

Winn
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Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 07:12 (70 days ago) @ WB

I've got a very small Kahr in 9mm. Ugly but very concealable and more powerful than the 380.

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