1886 Winchester 45-70 to 50-110

Shawn Davis
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Friday, January 12, 2018, 16:11 (186 days ago)

So, as I sit here, and after seeing a number of custom lever actions on this forum, I'm wondering about taking one of my 1886 Deluxe take-down Winchesters in 45-70 and having it made into a 50-110. I've always been an 1886 fan after my Great Grandfather had a 45-90 in one. Now, the gun I would use is one of the Miroku guns that Browning had manufactured in Japan; not an original 1886 so there's no "collector" issues with it.

The barrel is obvious - rebore or replace. The internals of the 1886 are more challenging though. A dummy 50-110 will not pass from the carrier to the barrel when the lever is closed due to clearance issues. I understand the internals on the 50-110 were machined differently than the others. (Maybe I'll ask the wife - she's a descendent of John Browning ;). She even has some of his gunsmithing tools - another story) Also, I want the externals color-case hardened instead of blued. Butt stock has the steel crescent butt plate. That needs to go away, or be converted to for shotgun style.

Gary et. al., your wisdom/thoughts please on such a project?

50-110

Frank Simon
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Friday, January 12, 2018, 16:36 (186 days ago) @ Shawn Davis

Shawn, I have a Turnbull org 86 50-110...you can shoot mild to wild with them. I have been using 50 alaskan brass an a 700 grn bullet...very nice anything gun...435 shoot well also fwiw

Some questions

Shawn Davis
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Friday, January 12, 2018, 22:12 (186 days ago) @ Frank Simon

Do you have an email or ph # I could call? I have some questions for you about your 50-110.

50-110

Frank Simon
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Friday, January 12, 2018, 23:24 (186 days ago) @ Shawn Davis

Do you have an email or ph # I could call? I have some questions for you about your 50-110.

Sure shoot me yours an I will get you a number

Email

Shawn Davis
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Saturday, January 13, 2018, 00:02 (186 days ago) @ Frank Simon

sddnhad(at)msn(doht)com

50-110

Frank Simon
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Saturday, January 13, 2018, 19:40 (185 days ago) @ Shawn Davis

sddnhad(at)msn(doht)com

Sent you an e mail

Shawn, that is a MAJOR undertaking as not only

Gary Reeder
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Friday, January 12, 2018, 16:39 (186 days ago) @ Shawn Davis

does the barrel and mag tube need to be changed, but the internals have to be also. The internals may have to be hand made to run the wider rimmed 50-110 thru the action that is set up for the skinnier 45-70 rim. The front of the action would have to be opened up also to allow the wider rim of the 50 to drop thru. There might be other considerations there also. You are looking at a very expensive and time consuming project. I wouldn't have any idea of the cost but I am sure $3000 wouldn't be far off, maybe a bit more. And with our current backlog of orders you would be looking at a minimum of 2 years.

You would be better off selling the 45-70 and finding one of the custom 50-90 or 50-110s you see every now and then on the internet.

Thx Gary!

Shawn Davis
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Friday, January 12, 2018, 22:12 (186 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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