even our military has lost their minds, or someone is

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 13:30 (235 days ago)

If you read some of the research on

Harry
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Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 14:01 (235 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

ballistics, you will see that the 6.5 has the optimum shape, etc for long range accuracy.

Maybe they have been reading one of these articles:

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2013/09/07/rifle-cartridges-what-the-pros-use/

But what about shooting through metal, etc. Maybe it has least recoil for the girleys?? Just wait a few years and they will be switching to another caliber. More taxpayers dollars wasted but it will be good for the shooters that need 6.5 brass at a good price.

Next you will see the wildcatters coming up with a special using the 6.5 brass. What are you waiting for?? :)

Wildcats

Neil
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Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 20:06 (235 days ago) @ Harry

Maybe someone will neck up the. 260 Rem to .308, 7mm, and .358. Wait...

BS say I, tried it 100 yrs. ago w/ 6mm LEE

WB
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Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 14:28 (235 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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and if you remember right the 6.8 SPC was supposed to be the

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 14:35 (235 days ago) @ WB

latest and greatest. It flopped. And there were several others. hell, I have several boxes of military issue 25-35 FMJ ammo. What poor schmucks they issued them to I have no idea.

What is "the best" at a shooting range is far from what is best on the battlefield. Unfortunately our military in battle will suffer due to the gimmick loving desk bound higher brass making decisions based on things that are not relevant to a man being shot at.

I have no military understanding but

WB
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Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 14:45 (235 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

from a simple procurement standpoint it seems folly and unrealistic to me. The .30 cal arm has been with us since 1896 for the U.S. Army, I don't see that changing too much in one form or another. Look at the M2 .50!

I do understand the idea and concept though. The Mexicans and Swedes had the ballistic best military arms ever made. The 7X57 and 6.5X55, but those went on to become supreme hunting rounds rather than stellar military rounds. Both kick a lot less than the .30-06/.308 and shoot flatter, hit harder at distance. The military does not have to make sense, just work around a budget.

6mm

Rick
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Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 15:31 (235 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

I've got some experience in the sand box and think this is a good move. The trajectory for these rounds is flatter and the ammo weighs less. It's a win, win.

yeah but your experience was eating cat turds in the sandbox

Gary Reeder
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Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 15:36 (235 days ago) @ Rick

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Not me, never played in no damn "sandbox", cats did...

Rick Sim
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Thursday, April 20, 2017, 16:06 (234 days ago) @ Rick

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This will be the 2nd go around for the 260

Grover Sr
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Thursday, April 20, 2017, 09:53 (235 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

We used it back in the early 70's when we trained for urban responses to the earlier terrorist attacks. I trained with one in Heidelberg after the Baader-Meinhoff gang started bombing US Army bases and police stations in Germany. Our settings were for rooftop nests shooting to street level and usually less than 1,000 meters. Subsequently and probably for good reason they reverted back to the 7.62

Correction it was the 280 we used not 260

Grover Sr.
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Thursday, April 20, 2017, 09:58 (235 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

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