Looking at my two serious carry guns

Sunday, April 04, 2021, 19:09 (17 days ago)

I'm really trying to think about my options. I carried one to Church this morning and the other back again this evening, comparing. Am I close to doing it right? Honestly I have several fine combat handgun options but I'm just not going to carry a 3 lb. 1911 type gun around unless I really feel a threat, then should I really expose myself in the first place? I have watched Thunder Ranch videos and such, I get it all. I guess I'm just not as serous or tactically leaning as O'l Thunder britches. I don't have the energy to try to hold up my pants with 3 lbs. of gun and another pound and a half of extra mags.

Size matters. Grams my be a better unit to compare weight. There are 454 grams to a pound. The loaded Kahr (6 rnds. 230 gr.) is 659 grams. (It uses 8-shot 1911 mags for back up), the Glock 30s with 10-rounds aboard is 816 grams, and for comparison the Beretta 96 with 11 200 gr. is 1,161 grams! It's hard to get a scale but the Kahr is about the same size as a Walther PPK .380, only much lighter. Smaller than the Taurus G3 too and it's a .45!

I have a couple pocket pistols I might tote but they are last ditch. Sold my Star PD a while back, I know Gary likes it. Decided the Glock 30s was THE modern version of it. More reliable, robust, and carrying more firepower. I've been pleased with the G-gun. But I look for smaller too. Something I can almost forget I have on. The Kahr PM45 has filled that bill in large. I also have the PM9 but I confess the .45 just instills more confidence. That makes a big difference in my carry.

You don't notice shat sticks "down" in you pants holster, but the butt length can protrude. Not that much difference in the slide thickness but some. That evens things out in the holster "feel".

Now I wonder if my hit probability suffers from going that small. I do think I can hit better with the G30s at say 25 yds. but at 10 or 15 there is not much difference. The very smooth DA trigger on the Kahr seems safer to me in urgent handling too. Boy I don't know I like having both! And I still have several 1911, Hi-power, Beretta, G21 etc. if I want a full size combat gun. It sounds goofy too but my wife can manage a bigger gun, running the slide etc. much better than a compact.

Thickness looks like a huge difference but it's not that much difference once you get used to having a lump there. I like a good sweat shield on the holster too.

I'm still comparing, testing, and fiddling. I have some IWB holsters for larger guns coming to play with. My wife wanted one for a Beretta 92 herself!!!

I have 2 carry guns when I carry--G2 and a Kahr both are 9s

Sunday, April 04, 2021, 19:18 (17 days ago) @ WB

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Sunday, April 04, 2021, 21:32 (17 days ago) @ WB


I think James calls that a "NYC Reload".

Monday, April 05, 2021, 06:33 (16 days ago) @ JT

I'm very unlikely to carry two guns on my person. I struggle with one bigger handgun. I like to be self sufficient and able to take care of myself but I do not enjoy feeling a need to arm myself. But that is the way it is today and getting worse. Perhaps I do need to give the notion of doubling up some thought. Maybe it's time for suspenders too.

I use the outstanding deep cover "Kangaroo Carry" under garment rig and have for years. It would be a small matter to use that and an IWB carry. But goodness, it's like I'm undercover on Miami Vice. Perhaps a normal carry and a .25 slipped in a pocket? That don't seem too much better but I guess it's better than nothing, and plausible.

Most of my travel is to town getting stuff or going to church. I can't carry at work but have at least a couple arms in my truck that is usually very close. I also drive it as a work vehicle on the job. But we are not supposed to have CCW, even when we are licensed to. Company policy. At home I carry different arms on the farm mainly for critters or snakes. It does feel good to have something going to the barn, you just never know.

NY reload

Scotty, The New York reload came from
Wednesday, April 07, 2021, 19:57 (14 days ago) @ WB

Jim Crillo`s book, writing of his exploits, while on the NYPD Anti Crime Unit.... Pretty heavy stuff.... He felt it was faster to pull a 2nd handgun rather then use a speed loader as this was in the revolver only days of the NYPD. The second gun was usually a duplicate of the first...

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