What are the differences between the 411gnr and the 430gnr?

Ethan
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Saturday, October 17, 2020, 14:32 (6 days ago)

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Let me rephrase, 430 and 411 ballistic differences

Ethan
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Saturday, October 17, 2020, 15:39 (6 days ago) @ Ethan

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Very little, the 411 shoots a little smaller weight bullet

Sean Harper
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Saturday, October 17, 2020, 18:02 (6 days ago) @ Ethan

411 weights 210gr JHP thru 285gr.
The 430 weights are 240gr thru 320

Sean

the 411 is a 41 caliber cartridge while the 430 is a 44

gary reeder
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Saturday, October 17, 2020, 18:23 (6 days ago) @ Sean Harper

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no offense but the .429/.430 is a 430, not .44

Lynn
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Sunday, October 18, 2020, 17:41 (5 days ago) @ gary reeder

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Blame it on the .44 American

WB
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Sunday, October 18, 2020, 18:11 (5 days ago) @ Lynn

it was the original "heel" type .44 round that was indeed a .44 but morphed into a .43 when the bullet came into the case fully in a lengthened cartridge called the .44 Special. At least I think that's what I read. Yes, your point, there actually IS no .44 Magnum.

you two are the reason many young shooters stay confused.

gary reeder
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Monday, October 19, 2020, 22:54 (4 days ago) @ WB

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I was looking through the Speer manual #12

WB
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Sunday, October 18, 2020, 14:59 (5 days ago) @ Sean Harper

in the .454 Casull section (I have a Taurus that still scares me). It lists the max loading for a 300 gr. JHC using a compressed load of 34 gr. H110, out of a 7.5" FA M83 it shows 1550 fps. Man is it rude to shoot too.

I was a little surprised. I have a stock Ruger Super Redhawk 9.5" that Gary re-chambered to .429 GNR. I also have a LEE 310 gr. FNGC mould and really like the bullet. Using a full, but not compressed, loading of H110 under it, while seated in the rear crimp groove, I get around 1550 fps from my .429 GNR. While it kicks up pretty good it is not abusive, nor seems to have such a ferocious muzzle blast. I'm not sure why, it just does. Given the same bullet weight and speed, the slightly smaller .430" bullets should penetrate better. So far I've taken a couple of small Whitetail and a nice big hog with that combination. In the latter instance I got about 4' of penetration, from rear ham to just under the skin on the off shoulder angling away. A one shot kill for sure. The slick cast bullet affords me more speed at the same pressures, so I figure my pressure is less than the Speer .454 loading. Not that I shoot hundreds of rounds of it. A more friendly loading is a case full of 4227 and the front crimp grove for a more sedate 1350 fps with the 310 gr. But it's so accurate and easy shooting.

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The Reeder cartridges are good foundations. If you don't load your own (what an unlimited delight it is) there are custom loaders to assist. The .429 has been such a great round to work with.

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