What new powders are close to Unique

WB
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Thursday, July 30, 2020, 18:37 (13 days ago)

in burn rate and use? There are so many new names and I have not researched them.

Maybe this will help...

Huey
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Thursday, July 30, 2020, 18:43 (13 days ago) @ WB

Yeah, In the store today I was deer in the headlights

WB
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Thursday, July 30, 2020, 18:50 (13 days ago) @ Huey

NO Unique, Bullseye, Blue Dot, Red Dot, H322 or 335, 3031, 4064. My old friends were gone. I remember some CFE? Had no clue what that was. They had some 4350, 7828 etc.

CFE Pistol, Longshot, 572, Power Pistol, etc...

Huey
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Thursday, July 30, 2020, 18:54 (13 days ago) @ WB

Are excellent powders. I grew up on Unique and 2400. But, not so much I can't try new things and learn.

Can highly recommend the powders listed above.

Longshot is fantastic. I've used it

WB
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Thursday, July 30, 2020, 19:13 (13 days ago) @ Huey

in 10mm and very hot .45 Super as well as 3.5" 2-1/4 oz. 10 ga. loads. The shotshells ran 200 fps faster than Blue Dot (the historic stand-by) and had the same listed pressure. Ditto 777 over FFFg (or Pyrodex P) in my .44 Cap and ball shooting.

About all I use in 40 S&W, 10mm, 38 Super, etc

Huey
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Friday, July 31, 2020, 02:20 (12 days ago) @ WB

Needs a little more pressure than what a 45 ACP produces. But, I'm finding 572 is the powder for it.

Longshot is working great in my 25K 44 Special loads too.

Using a lot of Longshot these days for

Drdougrx
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Friday, July 31, 2020, 04:39 (12 days ago) @ Huey

hotter 44spec or midrange 44 mags. I also use it for 460Rowlands, both max and midrange. I’m using powerpistol for 9mm and 38super.

I think a few more with these powders but I’m not at home to check. I’m saving my Unique for 45colt and 44spec in my charter arms bulldog. 2400 in my 41 and 44mags if I feel like it.

Yep 2400 is agreat .41 Mag. powder.

WB
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Friday, July 31, 2020, 06:01 (12 days ago) @ Drdougrx

I think it burns cleaner than it does in .44 Mag., .45 Colt for sure. I get lots of cornmeal unless I use magnum primers in the latter two ctgs. Even then it's not very clean.

I think I need to try the Power Pistol stuff.

I never worried about that kind of stuff.

Jim Taylor
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Friday, July 31, 2020, 07:58 (12 days ago) @ WB

Did the load push the bullet to the speed I was wanting?
Was it accurate?
If so, who give a rats butt if it smokes, is dirty, doesn't seem to give complete combustion.

That's like arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

My old .45 Colt load with the 300 gr. #457191 and 18.5 gr. of 2400 ran an honest 1100+ fps and was extremely accurate. My long range target was a 16" truck rim hanging on a tripod at a bit over 400 yards. On a good day I could ring it 3 out of 5 and sometimes 4 out of 5. I never worried about whether it was a dirty or clean load.

Now I don't obsess, but I do like efficiency

WB
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Friday, July 31, 2020, 13:05 (12 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

2400 will easily push a 210 gr. cast bullet at over 1400 fps with no leading (most of my alloys anyway) and is indeed accurate. In .45 Colt we were shooting some from .454 Casull in a M83 wheelgun. On the 3rd shot the gun locked up tight. Unburned granules got into the pawl gear spaces and the tight tolerances could not manage it. I'd say that load with non-magnum primers was a no go in that platform. On a Ruger it likely would have just thumbed on through. There is something to be said for generous and forgiving tolerances if they do not adversely affect accuracy expected. Ah la AK47.

I'm fine with 2" groups at 50 yds. over 1 MOA from my revolver. LOL The FA might actually do that! I think my old .224-32 SA sure could.

Paco and I shot tons of 2400 through the Freedom Arms guns

Jim Taylor
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Friday, July 31, 2020, 14:02 (12 days ago) @ WB

Never had an issue. Used standard Large Pistol Primers. Whatever we could get. Back when JD Jones was the only one making heavy .45 pistol bullets we got the highest velocities using a compressed charge of 2400 under the 320 gr. bullet. I don't recall the exact velocities but were around 1800 fps from a 7 1/2" barrel.

In those days we never messed with Magnum primers and never had any issues. With heavy bullets what we did was:
-don't use a neck expander .. just bell-mouth the case
-heavy crimp

When my eyes were young I shot groups at 110 yards that were around 3 1/4 inches with the 454 and with my 41 Magnum. No scopes. But I could see then.

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25 yards 5 shots

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110 yards

Jim, I guess we are showing our age.

Gary Reeder
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Friday, July 31, 2020, 13:16 (12 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

I use Win. 296, H-110, 1680, and AA#9 for my magnum loads, 4227, AA#7,2400, Blue Dot and Unique for my medium loads and Red Dot, PB, and AA#5 for my semi auto stuff like 45 ACP, 9mm etc.
I know these powders work and have for many years and I see no sense in spending time and money experimenting with other powders just because they are new. Plus I have to load every night for test firing ammo for the next day and I simply don't have the time to try this and that when I know the powders I have work and work well.

I’ve used Universal w/ good results

Brent Clark
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Thursday, July 30, 2020, 18:50 (13 days ago) @ WB

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I use Power Pistol

Randy Barnett
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Friday, July 31, 2020, 05:46 (12 days ago) @ WB

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Power Pistol is a new fave.

Amede
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Friday, July 31, 2020, 07:50 (12 days ago) @ WB

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Another Power Pistol user.

ChrisG
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Saturday, August 01, 2020, 15:57 (11 days ago) @ WB

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