I know I'm late to the party but it was fun.

WB
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Monday, December 23, 2019, 09:49 (1596 days ago)

Roman couldn’t wait to test the .450 Bushmaster. I used Hodgdon’s data and the Hornady 250 gr. pointy tip bullets, LilGun powder and Remington 7-1/2 BR small rifle primers. The data listed a range of 35 – 38.5 grs. charge and a velocity range of 2158 -2289 fps from the 24” test barrel. The pressures are notably lower with LilGun as, is typical, peaking at 35,900 psi. That’s about all the capacity you can get under the bullet. I noticed the powder reacted much like a pistol with the straight case, reaching a plateau and leveling off. The progressive steps are more pronounced with a “necked” cartridge. Also the velocity loss per inch of barrel reduction is usually much greater.

I loaded a starting range of 35, 37, and 38 gr. series of test loads. We also found that about any magazine we used from a modified AR/20, dedicated 350 Legend, and Milt. AR 30 rnd., they all seemed to work acceptably. Brass was ejected a short distance and was in a neat pile, not scattered. All case mouths remained rounded and were not pinched; cases were not scratched or beat up. Checking primer appearance and cases after each series did not show any notable differences. Indention was rounded edges and not flattened. Roman claimed he “felt” the progressive recoil was increasing but the velocity did not support that. Perhaps he was just being tenderized. Lol Recoil is a factor to consider, if you think a .270 recoils, perhaps this is not for you.

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We did a short amount of shooting, limited by my available supply of brass. The results were a span of only 2048 – 2107 fps over the 3 grain charge progression. Listed pressure is a 3,000 psi range from starting load to max. H110 and 4227 are a couple other powder options and show 1,000 psi higher levels with lower velocities. It makes sense to try to stick to starting loads and move up to find the most accurate loading. Power is all the same so why waste powder.

It’s a bit like I have the answer but forgot the question. The .450 BM pistol is a fun project allowing .454 Casull or .444 Marlin power in a 7 lb. compact “pistol” platform. It is not expensive to set up, only costly if you do not reload. It’s just a toy to me for exploring the cartridge. It would certainly make an effective and handy rig for hunting hogs or such! The straight wall case behaves a little differently but I also only lost 100-200 fps over a barrel range dropping 13.5”. That is an interesting and big positive. If we decide to keep this little beast Roman declared we invest in an actual "Chambered brake" to help the recoil a little. I concur.

we built several 450 BMs on the AR-15 platform a couple

Gary Reeder
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Monday, December 23, 2019, 10:17 (1596 days ago) @ WB

of years ago. Then when everybody started doing so, we dropped it. I have one for myself and so far only shooting factory. Decent rifle. Not sure what I would ever use it for other than having fun or shooting a hog at HHC but a fun gun.

I thought about the SOCOM but being necked

WB
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Monday, December 23, 2019, 10:32 (1596 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

and for heavier .458" bullets only I didn't want to limit myself to 300+ gr. projectiles. Not really suited to a pistol platform either, even worse. Plus the brass is more expensive.

It looked like a good platform to tinker with. I actually like the 350 Legend as it seems more useful. It may be just long enough that it will work through lever gun applications where the .357 Maximum won't. I don't know. Ruger, Mossberg, and Savage all have economy good, service type, bolt guns in it. Certainly no benefits I clearly see over the delightful .35 Remington as to performance. The straight wall cartridge hunting rules may just push it past the novelty stage. It's not hard to load and everyone needs a little schooling about different crimps anyway.

Hornady's HAP 230 is a good bullet the 450B

Gus S.
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Monday, December 23, 2019, 14:30 (1596 days ago) @ WB

Its not going to expand,.. but its is 45 cal. The hole is ain't gonna shrink smaller than that. It'll blow through hogs with no effort. When we were goofing with the 450 back when it was a hot new thing, that bullet was our favorite.

We have some limited experience with the pointy

WB
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Monday, December 23, 2019, 15:17 (1596 days ago) @ Gus S.

Hornady rubber tip and we found it best for deer or sheep type critters. I agree in this platform a non-expanding bullet will do. The old 230 gr. FMJ at 2100 fps would leave a mark. I want to see if the old 255 gr. SWC will feed.

Forgot to mention, barrel shroud is a split MLok

WB
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Monday, December 23, 2019, 15:26 (1596 days ago) @ Gary Reeder

And we noticed it had slid about 1/8 inch forward the receiver in recoil. That two screw friction pinch is all that is holding it to the barrel but. Maybe a standard MLok would be better?

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