309 JDJ vs 7-30 Waters-7mm GNR?

John W
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Monday, October 27, 2025, 11:37 (3 days ago)

Hello All:

I have too much time on my hands. Then again that reminds me that I need to do more work on my off-grid cabin.

I saw someone who has been successful with the 309 online for a variety of game like antelope and deer.

I am thinking that the 7x30 Waters or the 7 MM GNR would work just as well and maybe better in the sense that the 309 uses a necked down 444 Marlin case vs a 3030 case.

Anyone have any real world hunting experience with either one to make a good comparison?

Just thinking out loud and possible future purchase. Thank you all from the woods of North Central Maine.

Never shot the 309, I have killed a ton of deer and hogs

Sean Harper
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Monday, October 27, 2025, 13:40 (3 days ago) @ John W

with the 30 GNR and 7 GNR both will shoot a 140-150gr bullet at 2400 fps out of a my 13" barrel G2.This hog was taken with the 7 GNR a few years back.
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Sean

Basically a pocket .300 Savage or 7x57.

WB
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Monday, October 27, 2025, 14:35 (3 days ago) @ Sean Harper

Don’t forget the .256 Falcon to cover the .257 Roberts. All based on maxing the common .30-30 brass. Even the 7 will shoot factory 7x30 Waters to fire form. The .256 Falcon will shoot the old .25-35 Win., once! lol. A bit much asking the brass to violently expand that much. I found out.

JD’s stuff was good. .444 brass is expensive and spotty to get sometimes.

Thank you all for the replies. Currently I have

John W
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Thursday, October 30, 2025, 06:42 (59 minutes ago) @ WB

an Encore frame with an original factory 3006 barrel on it. I wears a Leupold 2-7 variable and is quite accurate.

IN addition I do have a couple of Contender and G2 frames. I like the lighter/slimmer profile of that frame. It makes for a great walking around gun.

What I like about the 7mm GNR and maybe the 30 GNR family is that the case is a simple fireform. I have read that the formation of 309 JDJ brass is a multi step process. I like simple and the GNR class with a 30-30 case seems to fit that bill.

My wife shot a couple of antelope in S Africa with her 7mm g

Lymey
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Wednesday, October 29, 2025, 00:26 (1 day, 7 hours, 15 min. ago) @ Sean Harper

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I took a 200lb cat with the 7GNR

colleen reeder
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Monday, October 27, 2025, 17:46 (3 days ago) @ John W

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309 JDJ

AlanT
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Wednesday, October 29, 2025, 15:16 (16 hours, 25 minutes ago) @ John W

I setup a 309 JDJ a couple years ago. I bought the barrel from a gentleman that posts on here occasionally.

168gr Nosler AccuBond Long Range, at just a tad over 2400 fps.

So far, I've only taken one animal with it; 2023, a mule deer buck that was laser'ed at 267 yards by my hunting partner. I couldn't have asked for better performance; One shot, bang, flop, hole all the way through.

I would certainly consider using the same rig for Antelope, bear, and elk, but I have better setups for each of those species.

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