I’ve shot them at HHC and know several have them

WB
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Thursday, September 11, 2025, 07:10 (2 days ago)

I found a PM-30 Kel-tec .22 WMR auto about $100 under the usual rate, NIB. I like the sights, light weight, and 30-shot capacity. They really seem to be reliable for what they are. Here in AR it’s the most powerful arm (.22 WMR) you are supposed to have in the woods outside of deer season. I think it will be a nice addition for farm and trail carry. I guess it would do fair for self defense as well.

Do any of you guys carry/use the PM-30’s? Any tips or tricks?

I’ve always wondered why they never made

WB
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Thursday, September 11, 2025, 08:11 (2 days ago) @ WB

A compact version with say a 3-1/2” barrel and shorter (20) shot mag. It would weigh less than the big gun’s 14 oz. (It’s a feather) and the mechanics of the action would remain the same as the full size.

You’d think those would sell like hot cakes! Great for dainty little girls and old men alike. The old AMT .22 mag was originally 6-1/2” barrel and they made a compact version. But shortened the slide and changed dynamics too. They were never truly reliable but some did pretty good. They pioneered a unique version of delayed blow-back action.

Finding the right ammo

Bob D
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Thursday, September 11, 2025, 17:32 (2 days ago) @ WB

Is key to reliability. And don’t forget they are rimfire so you have to load the magazines so the rim doesn’t hang up.

Yeah my Taurus TX-22 is sensitive to the rims

WB
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Friday, September 12, 2025, 05:52 (1 day, 13 hours, 6 min. ago) @ Bob D

Being in order, it’s easier to just use the little plastic loader thing that came with it. I was helping a fellow Misfit Andy struggling with his Kel-tec loading mags. He had the little polymer tipped pointy ammo and it was dragging in the mags.

I usually go to Winchester 45 gr. Or CCI .22 Mag. I do like the Armscor as it looks just like Winchester JHP from the 1970’s. The one I bought was $279 NIB but a FDE color. Seemed like a good price, no matter the color. I think they come with (2) mags ?

I prefer a sixgun to the autoloader ...

Jim Taylor
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Friday, September 12, 2025, 06:21 (1 day, 12 hours, 37 min. ago) @ WB

Not ammo sensitive as far as operation. The autoloader with no cylinder gap will give higher velocities than the sixgun, but I still prefer them. I should have bought a good S&W back when they were affordable.

I carry the Ruger Bearcat Shopkeeper around the place here when I am mowing or working on something. I've shot 8 or 9 coons with it. I am thinking about getting a Magnum cylinder for it just because.

I have a Ruger SP101 .22 8-shot, and lovely

WB
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Friday, September 12, 2025, 06:31 (1 day, 12 hours, 27 min. ago) @ Jim Taylor

S&W 63 Kit Gun .22LR, and I do carry them. But 14 oz. and 30-shots, the plastic wonder is appealing as a tool. I think a bunch of the guys have them, they are just a bit shy to admit.

Roman wanted me to try that new 5.7 20-shot internal mag thing. He has a FN. but I just have never warmed up to it and I’ve heard bad things about reloading 5.7. I need to re-visit that. I thought the .22 TCM/9mm guns had more to offer.

i do have one and with the correct

cable
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Thursday, September 11, 2025, 08:58 (2 days ago) @ WB

ammo its extremely reliable and accurate.

recently i also bought the similar walther 22 mag
[the WMP], as it comes with provision for an optical sight

it too is light weight and quite reliable

both of them are a lot of firepower in a very light weight package

I forgot they are not really small, just light.

WB
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Thursday, September 11, 2025, 09:35 (2 days ago) @ cable

The Walther (a favorite brand) really looks like a quality piece. I’ve had Walther P99’s and wanted to try a PPQ as an alternative to my Glock 19. But I went with an Sig 320 which I’ve customized.

I use this program to compare specs.

The size is close, with the Kel-tec being just a bit thinner, 0.180”. The Walther weighs 28 oz., about right for off hand accurate work.
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In essence the PMR-30 is about the same size as a Combat commander, same width, it just weighs a pound less, and holds 2/3 more rounds.
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22rf in the woods

Blake
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Friday, September 12, 2025, 17:06 (1 day, 1 hours, 51 min. ago) @ WB

Kimber has a nice 22 conversion kit for the 1911. Very accurate with CCI mini mag and stingers. It works with government and commander frames. Wife and I have run many thousands of rounds through ours. They last and last. Bigger than what you are looking to carry, but same trigger memory as the .45 you shoot with the same frame!!!

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