Just for more discussion, 200 or 230gr FP and

drdougrx
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Wednesday, August 20, 2025, 11:37 (22 days ago)

at what velocity????

The 230 at 850 fps will shoot through a LOT!

Jim Taylor
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Wednesday, August 20, 2025, 11:44 (22 days ago) @ drdougrx

The cartridge was designed with stopping aggressive humans in mind. It still works.

You darn right it will!!

Dave H.
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Wednesday, August 20, 2025, 19:06 (21 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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I’ve seen commercial loads with both at 1000 FPS!

WB
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Wednesday, August 20, 2025, 18:34 (21 days ago) @ drdougrx

It’s pretty easy to get them close to that with modern safe loads. Both really have some whack! My little .40 shoots a 200 gr. north of 1000 fps. The 9mm Winchester service 115 JFP is a genuine 1300 fps factory loading, not +P rated!

250+P at ~950fps, please…

Dave H.
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Wednesday, August 20, 2025, 19:06 (21 days ago) @ drdougrx

In my 1911s (or G21 if I had one) for backcountry carry. I don’t need, nor care for, a 10mm.

lol, I loaded up some custom 300 gr. For my

WB
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Thursday, August 21, 2025, 09:10 (21 days ago) @ Dave H.

Special “long throat” G20. They couldn’t , wouldn’t, chamber in any standard .45 barrels. My throating had “freebore” to the point it’s almost .45 Schofield length before the slug engages rifling and starts building pressure. Actually I accidentally took the throating tool deeper than I intended. But on a $50 barrel I thought I’d try it anyway. It works great and has conventional rifling, not polygonal. Remember, you’re not supposed to shoot lead through factory Glock barrels.

Not that I’d consider duplicating the exercise, it’s just interesting.

The 300’s functioned in the rubber gun fine. Good case support, no bulges, but I was running a hefty #26 spring and chambered brake too. Never intended a steady diet of them, just proof of concept. Velocity is classified, but you’d be pleased. lol

Thinking of using them in my Shield 3.3”

drdougrx
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Thursday, August 21, 2025, 05:26 (21 days ago) @ drdougrx

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My PM45 is smaller still and handles 230 ball fine

WB
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Friday, August 22, 2025, 06:26 (20 days ago) @ drdougrx

To me recoil is easier than the same gun in .40 or even a smaller one with hot 9mm. The .45 is more of a push than a slap. Even the teeny P380 “stings” a bit. But we are talking 10 oz., and a 16 oz. .45 ACP. I like the 155-170 gr. on the pocket big bores in .40, the 185 does seem to recoil less in .45.

It really depends on what the gun likes. Hard to limp wrist a 230 gr. ball load!

I run factory 230 hardball in my Firestar

Dave H.
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Friday, August 22, 2025, 08:26 (20 days ago) @ WB

for SD. Never an issue with feeding or ejecting. Strictly a carry piece.

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