On the list, but never had one…yet.

WB
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Sunday, August 03, 2025, 18:34 (89 days ago)

From an early age I liked Colts. The history seemed more prevalent to me as a brand. In reality the actions (except the SAA) are more fragile and literally hand fitted. That’s both good and bad!

I’ve always liked the idea of a Colt Diamondback .38. It one of those “just right” guns that some may overlook. Then one day you finally pick one up and HEY! They are basically adjustable sight frame “Detective Specials” with the like grip frame (I think), that’s another issue with Colt DA. One frame size may have six different griprame variations through the years. But essentially the little Diamondback is dressed up as a baby Python. It also shares the flat V-spring lock work and all forged construction. No sintered metal parts like some of the later Troopers and Lawman’s.

In cinema Steve McQueen gave them a boost in the movie Bullit in 1968. He played a Detective and was shown carrying a Diamondback with 2-1/2” barrel in an upside down shoulder rig. Very classy! They still command outrageous money! Myself, I think I’d like to try a 4”. Portable but still a good sight radius, for target shooting the 6” must be the bomb! I’ve seen a few occasionally around $1500 in new condition, but some folks ask much more. Don’t ever be suckered into one that a huckster ran off with the Colt checkered stocks and replaced with rubber! Replacements are very expensive and may not fit right. The humble .38 can do a lot and is real friendly loading. It even does a good job as a finisher on larger animals. Maybe one day I’ll fall into a deal and quench that one.

What’s still on your list, still unfulfilled?

One More ...

Jim Taylor
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Monday, August 04, 2025, 05:23 (89 days ago) @ WB

old Colt SAA

old Colt Bisley

old S&W

old Winchester levergun

First two are self explanatory…

WB
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Monday, August 04, 2025, 10:19 (89 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

So old S&W, I take that as a large frame break top? Taffin got giddy with their discussion. I don’t remember handling one. They look awkward, but I could see the speed of ejection and unobstructed reloading. The hammer looks a mile from your thumb.

Old Winchester Levergun….. ‘92, ‘94, ‘86 (you had a 71 in .348), or 1895?

I’d like to play with a ‘95. I’ve had or own later versions of the rest. The ‘86 I had was a modern .45-90, a beast! The 1895’s were used in several expeditions under harsh conditions. I only read of Kermit Roosevelt’s failing him (I think). Not sure if it was a .30-06 or .30-03? Several listings just say .30 Govt., .30-40 Krag?!

I am not particular about the S&W

Jim Taylor
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Monday, August 04, 2025, 10:23 (89 days ago) @ WB

Any early M&P ... 1917 ... whatever.

The Winchester choice would be a '73 or '76 ... but I don't have the wherewithall to play those games so ....

I didn’t even consider the pre-browning Winnys!

WB
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Monday, August 04, 2025, 14:51 (88 days ago) @ Jim Taylor

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The 1895 30 US or 30 Gov = .30-40 Krag

IC
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Monday, August 04, 2025, 12:33 (89 days ago) @ WB

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Yep, except the 1895 .30 US model 1903

WB
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Monday, August 04, 2025, 14:50 (88 days ago) @ IC

Was that odd .30-03, slightly pre-dating the .30-06. Slightly longer neck and made for the 220 gr. I personally think many writers of the time threw the descriptions all in together. Perhaps reading off of shipping manifests for expeditions describing guns or cartridges. The .30 US Govt. indeed started with the .30/40 Krag. I have a looooong barreled 1896 bolt rifle myself. But the ‘03 and ‘06 sort of snuck in there with some folks just calling them .30 Gov-ment as a catch all.

I think the Roosevelt Expedition (Kermit) was armed with .30-06’s, a real blaster back then. Of course Ted had one in .405 Winchester. The Martin’s used them extensively in their 1920’s-30’s expeditions, both .30-06 and .405 cal. I read of one North Pole expedition where they used one in .38-72 Winchester?!

.The rifle was built around the .30-40

IC
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Monday, August 04, 2025, 16:32 (88 days ago) @ WB

(also called 30 Army) .30-03 chambered in 1905. .30-06 chambered in 1908.

The Local Dealer has one with a poor boor for $1500

WB
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Tuesday, August 05, 2025, 07:04 (88 days ago) @ IC

It would be a good candidate to have re-bored but there you go and spend another $500. One might find a new barrel, but there again the work expense. I figured it was better to find another example in better shape.

Stupid AI, BORE. Roman wants a Russian 7.62x54R version!

WB
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Tuesday, August 05, 2025, 07:05 (88 days ago) @ WB

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